Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising short URLs in HTML/HTTP
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 22 April 2009 19:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising short URLs in HTML/HTTP
From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
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Hm. The problem, as I see it, with defining "persistence" is that one wants different things in different contexts. Consider these three cases of things I might write: 1 --------------------------------------------------- Note that any comments you post here are subject to my host's copyright policy: [link to current copyright policy at time of clicking]. ------------------------------------------------------ 2 --------------------------------------------------- Note that the comment you just made is subject to my host's copyright policy: [link to version of copyright policy in effect at the time of writing]. ------------------------------------------------------ 3 --------------------------------------------------- Check out the stupid typo in my host's copyright policy: [link to immutable snapshot of copyright policy at the time of writing]. ------------------------------------------------------ In case 1, I want a pointer that will always get me to the current policy at the time you click the link. In case 2, I want a pointer that will always get me to the policy that's in effect when I wrote the text, regardless of subsequent policy changes. In case 3, I want a pointer that will always get me to the version with the typo, even if they go and fix the typo without issuing a new policy version. With URL shorteners, you have no idea what you'll get, even when the link isn't broken. There's no guarantee that the content the link points to has any relation whatever to what was there when the short URL was made (if, say, the URL was set up to point to the current front page of the newspaper). With "short URLs" created by the content provider, you have a chance of at least knowing what you're getting. But what is it that you want to get, and how do you specify it. There are at least the three use cases above, and perhaps others. Barry
- rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising short UR… Sam Johnston
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Keith Moore
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Sam Johnston
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Keith Moore
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Eric Burger
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Sam Johnston
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Barry Leiba
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Sam Johnston
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Barry Leiba
- Re: rel="shortlink" proposal for advertising shor… Nicolas Williams