Re: [apps-discuss] Fwd: Fwd: Civil suit; ftp shutdown; mailing list shutdown

Frank Ellermann <> Fri, 07 October 2011 03:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Fwd: Fwd: Civil suit; ftp shutdown; mailing list shutdown
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On 7 October 2011 01:24, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:

> Forwarded to the IETF because we are also affected, and we
> may also be able to help out.

Hi, so far I thought that the TZ database will be hosted by
IANA - same idea as for similar IANA registries such as the
charsets or the langtags.

Obviously there should be some kind of "expert" mailing list,
again the same idea as for similar IANA registries.  If the
old TZ mailing list was closed I guess the IETF could create
a new list.  Maybe somebody can donate their private archive
of the old list, but IIRC GMaNe already has a public archive.

The new list should be added to the "IETF non-WG" page, in
essence somebody enters the required info into a Web form
and picks a responsible AD for the confirmation.  If that AD
(Peter or Pete) confirmed it the IETF secretary adds the info
on the "non-WG list" page.  Fairly simple, but I have no idea
how it is supposed to work if the list does not yet exist.

With this ugly lawsuit business one of the I* Chairs has to
inform the legal counsel, because it might be a case for the
I* insurance.  (They are protected, including IAB, ADs, and
WG chairs; excluding authors.)

The TZ database is precious.  This problem should be tackled
by the IESG + Trust + IAB; trying it here is not good enough.