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Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols

Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> Mon, 21 March 2011 18:10 UTC

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From: Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net>
To: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>, Dave CROCKER <dcrocker@bbiw.net>, General discussion of application-layer protocols <apps-discuss@ietf.org>, Claudio Allocchio <Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it>
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols
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On Mon Mar 21 18:01:13 2011, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> I would (and I did) I installed a Wordpress blog. If I want to add  
> chat capabilities, I add Strophe (a JavaScript based XMPP  
> implementation).

Thanks for proving my point as I wrote it - Strophe.js is in itself  
only possible because we (that is, the XMPP community) went to some  
effort to standardize a method for browser-hosted XMPP clients to  
interoperably connect to XMPP servers. It's almost a perfect  
counter-example to your argument.

If you want chat *without* having an XMPP server in your browser,  
you're forced into reinventing IM for your purposes - which is indeed  
possible. You need not do this yourself, of course, just as you  
needn't write your own XMPP server, but unlike the latter case,  
you're very tightly coupled to the solution.

Dave.
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