Re: [apps-discuss] CONTEXTJ in TLD DNS-Labels (draft-liman-tld-names-05)

John C Klensin <> Wed, 20 July 2011 12:19 UTC

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I think we are going to need to agree to disagree about several
aspects of this, including especially your apparent impression
of my attitude toward ICANN and the degree to which you
apparently believe that is driving my conclusions.  While I find
many aspects of how ICANN does business extremely frustrating, I
simply do not believe your characterization of my attitude is

However, one of your comments may deserve some calibration...

--On Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:49 -0700 Paul Hoffman
<> wrote:

> "Phishing" in the root
> zone, given the horrendous weight of the process for getting
> new names put in the root zone, is not a threat. Which others
> do you believe that need to be weighed against the value of
> the characters?

ICANN has agreed to change the process for getting new names put
in the root zone.  The new (and approved) model for obtaining a
TLD as of next year is essentially "pay your application fee
and, unless a very narrow range of objections occurs, you get
the name".  All, or substantially all, of the requirements for
staff or third-party review that carried, in your words,
"horrendous weight", have been eliminated.  The proposed
application fee (USD 180000) is high enough to discourage some
types of applicants, but that does not make the process
"horrendous" -- one can either decide the TLD is important
enough pay it or not.