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Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-moonesamy-smtp-ipv6-00

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk@cloudmark.com> Tue, 15 November 2011 03:04 UTC

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:apps-discuss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of S Moonesamy
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> Subject: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-moonesamy-smtp-ipv6-00
> 
> The change from RFC 3974 is:
> 
>   - Removal of the Basic DNS Resource Record Definitions for Mail
> Routing section
> 
>   - Removal of the SMTP Sender Algorithm in a Dual-Stack Environment
> section

Why were these removed?  They seemed useful for illustration in RFC3974.

>   - Removal of the Operational Experience and open issues sections.

Replacing this with more current operational experience might be better than removing it outright.

Also, I wonder if the v6ops "Happy Eyeballs" work might be an interesting reference here.

> Please note that the algorithm has already been used in several
> existing implementations.

Excellent.

RFC5321 talked about aspects of RFC3974 that were in conflict with what RFC5321 says.  Have those been resolved in your draft?  (Alas, I can't tell after a cursory read what those might've been.  Maybe it's simply the thing John Levine just pointed out in another message.)

It's worth pointing out the document state change as well (which I support).

-MSK

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