Re: [apps-discuss] Apps-team review: draft-ietf-sipcore-sec-flows

Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> Tue, 11 January 2011 07:48 UTC

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Cc: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>, apps-discuss@ietf.org, draft-ietf-sipcore-sec-flows@tools.ietf.org, Brian Hibbard <brian@estacado.net>
Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Apps-team review: draft-ietf-sipcore-sec-flows
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Hi Kurt,

could you please have a look at Brian's explanation below and let us
know whether or not you are happy with it?

Thanks,

Gonzalo

>> *From: *Brian Hibbard <brian@estacado.net <mailto:brian@estacado.net>>
>> *Date: *January 6, 2011 10:35:07 AM CST
>> *To: *Kurt Zeilenga <Kurt.Zeilenga@Isode.com
>> <mailto:Kurt.Zeilenga@Isode.com>>
>> *Cc: *Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@Isode.com
>> <mailto:alexey.melnikov@Isode.com>>,
>> draft-ietf-sipcore-sec-flows@tools.ietf.org
>> <mailto:draft-ietf-sipcore-sec-flows@tools.ietf.org>,
>> apps-discuss@ietf.org <mailto:apps-discuss@ietf.org>
>> *Subject: **Re: Apps-team review: draft-ietf-sipcore-sec-flows *
>>
>> Hello Kurt,
>>
>> Thank you for your input.   The inconsistencies in presentation of DN
>> that you're talking about are the actual results of the dumps of the
>> OpenSSL "x509" certificate tool.  The use of the tool in this context
>> is only to examine the content of the certificates for learning and
>> testing purposes, and in the draft, to show what  designers and
>> testers would see in their environments.   It is only because those
>> are the actual results from the tool most likely to be used by readers
>> of this document, that we are partial to leaving the dumps as they are.  
>>
>> With that said, if you remain convinced that consistency  of
>> presentation is the more important factor here, I will go and make
>> changes to the x509 dumps.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Brian
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Kurt Zeilenga wrote:
>>
>>> I have been selected as the Applications Area Review Team reviewer
>>> for this draft (for background on apps-review, please
>>> seehttp://www.apps.ietf.org/content/applications-area-review-team)
>>>
>>> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
>>> you may receive. Please wait for direction from your document
>>> shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft.
>>>
>>> Document: draft-ietf-sipcore-sec-flows (rev-07 reviewed)
>>> Title: Example call flows using Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
>>> security mechanisms
>>> Reviewer: Kurt Zeilenga
>>> Review Date: 12/15/2010
>>> IETF Last Call Date: [include if known]
>>> IESG Telechat Date: 2011-01-20
>>> Summary: This draft is basically ready for publication as an
>>> Informational RFC but has a few issues that should be fixed before
>>> publication.
>>> Major Issues: None.
>>> Minor Issues:
>>>
>>> I see some inconsistencies in how Distinguished Names (DNs) are
>>> presented in the RFC.
>>>
>>> For instance (from 2.1):
>>>  Issuer: C=US, ST=California, L=San Jose, O=sipit,
>>>          OU=Sipit Test Certificate Authority
>>>
>>> vs. (also from 2.1)
>>>  DirName:/C=US/ST=California/L=San Jose/O=sipit/
>>>          OU=Sipit Test Certificate Authority
>>>
>>> The former kind of looks like the LDAP DN format but, if that's what
>>> was intended, the RDNs appear in the incorrect order.  Note that in
>>> the LDAP DN format, the most specific element appears first (the
>>> reverse of how they appear in the BER/DER encoding of a DN).  Also,
>>> there should be no spaces after the RDN separators (the commas).
>>>
>>> The latter appears to be DCE format.
>>>
>>> I would think it appropriate to use a single format for all DNs and,
>>> if one chooses to use the LDAP DN format, that values ought to be
>>> constructed per RFC 4514.  I note that Appendix A of RFC 4514
>>> discusses presentation issues of Distinguished Names.
>>>
>>> Nits: The usual (many acronyms are not spelled out on first use, etc.)
>>
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