Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP
Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca> Tue, 10 January 2012 19:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP
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> Why do you say this is an autonomous service? All the existing > user-oriented spam feedback systems are are an integrated part of the > user's email service provider's offering. Users really don't want to have > to type in yet another hostname and username and password just to provide > feedback to their provider's spam filters. I agree it's part of an integrated system, but what I'm trying to get at is that it's a standalone component within the whole. While the service presents itself as a part of the MUA, it's not part of the message store itself (any more than the MUA's SMTP client functionlity is). As for configuration, I'm reasonably confident this can be managed with SRV records, and would expect many implementations would share the same authentication credentials with the message store, so it should be possible to roll this out in many cases with no extra configuration required by the end user. --lyndon
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- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP Lyndon Nerenberg
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- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP John R. Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP Tony Finch
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- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP John R. Levine
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