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Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> Mon, 28 March 2011 12:45 UTC

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On Mon Mar 28 12:54:22 2011, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> Is this a different Dave Cridland?
> 
> 
No, same one.


> For those who have not read through the book it talks about how to  
> implement XMPP-based protocols in JavaScript.

That's a delightfully simplified view of that book, but more  
accurately, it discusses using an existing XMPP library (Strophe.js)  
which communicates over BOSH (an open-standard method for wrapping  
bidirectional streams in HTTP POST requests) to create web  
applications which operate over standards-based protocols.

In other words, it's discussing using open-standards in the web  
environment.

It doesn't talk about throwing out the very notion of open-standards.

As I said before, your suggestion that one could use Strophe.js  
instead of open-standards was therefore highly misleading, and very  
much counter to your argument that end-user application protocols  
have no place in this world.

Dave.
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