Re: [apps-discuss] i18n intro, Sunday 14:00-16:00

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Wed, 20 July 2011 18:44 UTC

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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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--On Wednesday, July 20, 2011 08:50 +0100 Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@guppylake.com> wrote:

> On Jul 19, 2011, at 9:00 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
> 
>>> http://www.saint-andre.com/ietf/i18n-intro.pdf
>> 
>> 197 slides?  YMBK.
> 
> Yes, this is clearly far too complex an area to cover in only
> 197 slides, but perhaps as a simplified introduction.....

Indeed.   Sadly, I had not looked at the slides and made an
incorrect assumption about the relationship between that many
slides and the presumed time slot.

> And no, I'm not joking (for once).

> I for one am very grateful that you (Pete*) are doing this,
> and look forward to finally achieving internationalization
> enlightenment.  -- Nathaniel

I have yet to achieve i18n enlightenment, despite looking at
probably thousands of slides over the years (and making several
hundred).  But, like other journeys, this one probably starts
with a single step... or 197 slides.  I, too, look forward to
the presentation.

    john