Re: [apps-discuss] Confusing JSON Pointer

지송원 James Songwon Chi <chi880466@gmail.com> Wed, 28 March 2012 02:04 UTC

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2012년 3월 28일 오전 10:36, Paul C. Bryan <pbryan@anode.ca>님의 말:
> On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 08:47 +0900, 지송원 James Songwon Chi wrote:
>
> 2012년 3월 27일 오후 11:23, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>님의 말:
>> On 2012-03-27 15:49, 지송원 James Songwon Chi wrote:
>>> 2012년 3월 27일 오후 4:57, Julian Reschke<julian.reschke@gmx.de>님의 말:
>>>> On 2012-03-27 07:22, 지송원 James Songwon Chi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> After reading JSON Pointer (draft-ietf-appsawg-json-pointer-01), I am
>>>>> confused with encoding or escape scheme.
>>>>> For me, it is an ambiguous scheme. For example, a reference token
>>>>> "ref/1" can be expressed following ways:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) If it is a URI fragment identifier and a JSON Pointer
>>>>>       Step 1. apply URI encoding: ref%5C1
>>>>>       Step 2. apply JSON Pointer encoding:  ref%5C1
>>>>>       Final result: ref%5C1
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) If it is a JSON Pointer and a URI fragment identifier
>>>>>       Step 1. apply JSON Pointer encoding: ref^/1
>>>>>       Step 2. apply URI encoding:  ref^%5C1
>>>>>       Final result: ref^%5C1
>>>>>
>>>>> I expected the same results.
>>>>>
>>>>> And if my interpretation is wrong, to prevent the similar question,
>>>>> there should be some examples for this kind.
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand the question.
>>>>
>>>> The spec states how to put JSON Pointers (^-escaping) into fragment
>>>> identifiers (%-escaping).
>>>>
>>>> As far as I can tell the outcome then is what you have under 2), no?
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Julian
>>>
>>> Thank you Julian for the reply.
>>> Yes. Answer is 2) for above question. Well, but I gave a wrong
>>> question and a wrong example (And solidus is 0x2F, not 0x5C.)
>>>
>>> This is corrected one:
>>>
>>> If I want a JSON Pointer to be represented as both a JSON String and a
>>> URI fragment identifier, I should apply three encoding scheme.
>>> There are two sequences with example:
>>> ...
>>
>> You convert *either* to a string *or* to a URI fragment. Never both.
> I don't agree with you. First, there is no such words.
> Second, if it is used in a JSON Schema as a "$ref" value, it should be
> both JSON String and URI.
>
>
> The intent of the draft is to establish rules for encoding in a JSON string
> or in a URI. Of course, I agree that a URI can in turn be expressed in a
> JSON string, but in this case, URI encoding applies; you do not
> mix-and-match encodings.
>
>
> By the way, do we really *need another escape* even there are two
> encodings already?
>
>
> I'm not sure what you mean here. If you encode as URI, presumably all valid
> URI characters are representable without any further escaping in a JSON
> string.

We have URI encoding and JSON String encoding. Why do we need another
escape or encoding for JSON Pointer?

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> Paul
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