Re: [apps-discuss] draft-saintandre-json-namespaces-00 comments

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Thu, 10 November 2011 09:50 UTC

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On 2011-11-10 10:39, Dominik Tomaszuk wrote:
> On 08.11.2011 18:05, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>>> I propose to give possibility to declare namespace.
>>
>> -1. Actually, -10. While somewhat useful for XML, namespaces have also
>> proven to cause many headaches for corner cases.
> I do not propose to reject Clark Notation and add declarative XML-like
> namespaces. My proposal was optional. If like long Clark Notation URLs'

The added complexity is there, even if it's optional.

> you can use it (advantage: easy processing). If you want short and
> non-repeated namespace you can declare it and use only reference
> (advantage: smaller and easier to read file).

Again, why would you want it? In XML, manual editing and recomposing was 
a use case; do you think the same it true for JSON?

> ...

Best regards, Julian