Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols

Claudio Allocchio <Claudio.Allocchio@garr.it> Mon, 21 March 2011 16:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, Ted Hardie wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Claudio Allocchio
>> I fully agree. Another bullet point not in the description: "mobile internet
>> effects of the proposed solution". Carriers will be happy with all these
>> one-time downloads, while users will be very unhappy while watching the
>> "please wait" icon on their mobile device.
>>
>
> I fully agree that "mobile Internet effects" would be a useful thing
> to add to the discussion, but I think you should talk to an operator
> before presuming that they would be happy with " all these one-time
> downloads".

yes, ... I was just thinking of the "billing aspect of volume based 
contracts" of course.

   If the consumption reduces the availability of resources
> in the radio access network such that fewer subscribers can be
> serviced in a cell sector, you are likely to get the opposite result.
> They either have unhappy customers who generate support costs and
> churn, build out costs to increase the number of cells, or artificial
> limitation of revenue opportunities.  None are fun.

And in some areas we already see the effects: 3G is no longer what it used 
to be, and users rush to WiFi hot-spots, non only for billing reasons.

> To put this more generally, waste is the enemy of the
> resource-constrained device or system.  And wireless spectrum is
> pretty commonly acknowledged as a constrained resource.

+1

>
> regards,
>
> Ted Hardie
>

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