Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols
SM <sm@resistor.net> Tue, 22 March 2011 23:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols
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Hi Hannes, At 02:12 22-03-2011, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >We had to find some term to describe this paradigm and concept. Ok. >When you look through the broader standardization landscape then you >for sure will notice that there are architectural differences in >where groups see the need for standards and interoperability and >what degree of interoperability is necessary. For example, compare a >3GPP IMS architecture, the IETF SIP architecture, and the >RTCWeb-based architecture. I hope you recognize differences - >differences that go beyond the protocol level. One key point here is the "degree of interoperability". That might sum up the various positions we have seen in this discussion. >While it is difficult to provide suggestions regarding the approach >a protocol designer should take there are various side-effects of >any decision you make. When we interviewed folks in the Web >community (from inside the IETF as well as outside) it was not so >clear where the limits for the Web (HTML/JavaScript) model are. In >any case they are changing rapidly. We hope to get more feedback >from those who have been exposed to some of the mentioned Web >technologies. Are you this Web person? I prefer not to answer yes to being a Web person. :-) I agree that the limits are changing rapidly. Mark commented on the evolution of the browser and lock-in of data [1]. As we move from protocol to service, the code is the least of our concerns. Regards, -sm 1. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss/current/msg02396.html
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