Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful
James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> Wed, 19 September 2012 22:17 UTC
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From: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful
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+1 ... as much as I would hate to jump into the middle of this pissing match, let's not forget that IDs are not finished products. If there have been incremental updates to the spec since it was last published, please post the update so it can be properly reviewed.... even if its not yet done. On Sep 19, 2012 3:11 PM, "Nico Williams" <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Francis Galiegue <fgaliegue@gmail.com> > wrote: > > And you'd have remembered, also, that I _explicitly said_ that they > > were not submitted yet because feedback was needed. > > Well, we submit Internet-Drafts because feedback is needed :) It's > quite OK to submit a badly incomplete/unfinished I-D; indeed, I'd say > that that's the only way to get started and make progress towards a > Standards-Track RFC. > > Nico > -- > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss >
- [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Francis Galiegue
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Francis Galiegue
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Francis Galiegue
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Francis Galiegue
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Francis Galiegue
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Francis Galiegue
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful James M Snell
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful evan@status.net
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Francis Galiegue
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Andrew Newton
- Re: [apps-discuss] JSON Schema considered harmful Dave Crocker