Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger

Blaine Cook <romeda@gmail.com> Mon, 21 November 2011 17:54 UTC

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:53:42 +0000
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Webfinger
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On 21 November 2011 15:49, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com> wrote:
> 1)      You want to mandate use of JSON, which we also indicated in the
> draft.  However, I would personally prefer to give both XML and JSON equal
> weight and require both.

Implementations of XML-based host-meta clients are significantly more
complex than JSON implementations. To completely abandon XML-based
host-meta would have been impossible, but JSON is vastly preferred. To
lower the barrier for Webfinger adoption, +1 for JSON as a strong
recommendation over XML. It's still early days, so existing
implementations shouldn't be given undue weight.

> 2)      You wanted to mandate HTTPS. I’m not opposed, but host-meta does not
> mandate it.  Shouldn’t we Webfinger requirements on what is there?

host-meta does not necessarily have security implications. Webfinger
almost certainly does, and as such should mandate HTTPS.

b.