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Re: [apps-discuss] The acct: scheme question

John Bradley <ve7jtb@ve7jtb.com> Mon, 02 July 2012 03:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] The acct: scheme question
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WF resolution won't work without a domain to provide the root of discovery.  

While it might be inferred from contact to create the URI.  

Also the WF target server may be supporting multiple domains so a user name on its own would not be a good pattern.

If we are doing acct: it should have a mandatory domainpart.

John B.
On 2012-07-01, at 11:31 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> On 7/1/12 6:44 PM, William Mills wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
>>> To: William Mills <wmills@yahoo-inc.com>
>>> Cc: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>; "apps-discuss@ietf.org"
>> <apps-discuss@ietf.org>; Murray S. Kucherawy <msk@cloudmark.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 3:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] The acct: scheme question
>>> 
>>> On 7/1/12 9:38 AM, William Mills wrote:
>>>> As susquepedalian as I frequently am, I would change 'discussants'
>>> in
>>>> section 2 to "working group".
>>> 
>>> Those discussions far predated any consideration at the IETF.
>>> 
>>>> section 3 para 3 "It is not assumed that an entity will necessarily
>>>> be able to interact with a user's account using any particular
>>>> application protocol, such as email...", I understand this but email
>>>> isn't a protocol, SMTP is for example.  Maybe change "email"
>>> to SMTP
>>>> there?
>>> 
>>> Sure.
>>> 
>>>> Section 4.3:  '"@" domainpart' should be optional. 
>>> It's reasonable
>>>> to think this might be used with local account identifiers that
>>>> don/t/need have a domain.
>>> 
>>> Making the domain name of the service provider implicit seems
>>> ill-advised to me. What's the harm of including the domainpart?
>> 
>> I just think it's something that won't be needed in some cases.
> 
> With all due respect, I think your suggestion is nonsensical. If I work
> at example.com and I want to send an email message to my co-worker Bill,
> is the URI for me mailto:bill instead of mailto:bill@example.com (as it
> would be for someone working at example.net)?
> 
> Peter
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