Re: [apps-discuss] +exi
Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Tue, 13 December 2011 21:40 UTC
Return-Path: <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
X-Original-To: apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B797411E809F for <apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:40:39 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -103.882
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.882 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.283, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rtLtGcNhvWh1 for <apps-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:40:39 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BAEDA11E809B for <apps-discuss@ietf.org>; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:40:38 -0800 (PST)
Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Dec 2011 21:40:36 -0000
Received: from p3EE279D1.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.178.36]) [62.226.121.209] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 13 Dec 2011 22:40:36 +0100
X-Authenticated: #1915285
X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+NiV0BQxGNfUCV2pogtVN2Ll2Zci2qHcsLEg1tkv K6oE+1/3K3C4JK
Message-ID: <4EE7C64B.8080300@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:40:27 +0100
From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
References: <4EBBB0EE.8050502@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <01O88YVG6MQY00RCTX@mauve.mrochek.com> <4EBCCE76.2090807@it.aoyama.ac.jp> <01O8AM6GDT5000RCTX@mauve.mrochek.com> <4EC0CCAE.5070402@stpeter.im> <01O8EWMK2T8E00RCTX@mauve.mrochek.com> <4EC2DC42.7010307@stpeter.im> <01O8GE5O3B5K00RCTX@mauve.mrochek.com> <C68CB012D9182D408CED7B884F441D4D0611DAC31D@nambxv01a.corp.adobe.com> <4EC31F1E.6070304@stpeter.im> <8p86c7d6chvadsku6k5dhct20qkl7uk73l@hive.bjoern.hoehrmann.de> <4EC326FE.1010809@stpeter.im> <lu96c7hsl37325nn3184ub4vr88qjgja50@hive.bjoern.hoehrmann.de> <EDB50792-348B-4693-9FDF-04BA091F8BE9@sensinode.com> <4EE78F2F.2070601@stpeter.im> <6.2.5.6.2.20111213095846.0b676240@resistor.net> <4EE7C162.9010802@stpeter.im>
In-Reply-To: <4EE7C162.9010802@stpeter.im>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0
Cc: paduffy@cisco.com, Thomas Herbst <therbst@silverspringnet.com>, apps-discuss@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] +exi
X-BeenThere: apps-discuss@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion of application-layer protocols <apps-discuss.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/apps-discuss>, <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-discuss>
List-Post: <mailto:apps-discuss@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss>, <mailto:apps-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:40:39 -0000
On 2011-12-13 22:19, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 12/13/11 11:02 AM, SM wrote: >> At 09:45 13-12-2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> It seems to me that #2 might not be an encoding of the relevant +xml >>> content type, but might be a different content type, so +exi might be >>> appropriate. >> >> I don't know whether Item B at >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/78/minutes/yam.txt is relevant to the >> discussion. > > Sort of. :) > > The case of gzipped SVG is a good example of an encoding of a content Well, until people start looking for a content type to map their "svgz" files to, or need to embed gzipped SVG into a data URI. The decision to clarify that "image/svg+xml" isn't useable for that was right, but this use case may really required a separate content type. > type. The case of a binary representation of an XML infoset might be an > example of a content type (as opposed to a compressed encoding of > textual XML, which I think we all agree is an encoding of a content > type). Before IETF 82, I was not aware of the EXI mode that represents > an XML infoset directly in binary, but some folks there enlightened me, > so I think there is more subtlety here than was reflected in this thread > in early November. I'm not sure that I understand the difference. Both are compression formats. One may be specialized for XML, but otherwise? Best regards, Julian
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Eric Burger
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Eric Burger
- [apps-discuss] font/* Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Mykyta Yevstifeyev (М. Євстіфеєв)
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Eric Burger
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Tony Hansen
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Frank Ellermann
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Tony Hansen
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Julian Reschke
- [apps-discuss] 答复: font/* TianLinyi
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Tony Hansen
- Re: [apps-discuss] 答复: font/* Tony Hansen
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Martin J. Dürst
- [apps-discuss] type name suffixes (was: Re: font/… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] 答复: font/* Vinayak Hegde
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] type name suffixes (was: Re: f… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] type name suffixes Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] type name suffixes Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] type name suffixes Larry Masinter
- Re: [apps-discuss] type name suffixes Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] type name suffixes Bjoern Hoehrmann
- [apps-discuss] +exi (was: Re: type name suffixes) Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi (was: Re: type name suffi… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi (was: Re: type name suffi… Zach Shelby
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi (was: Re: type name suffi… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi (was: Re: type name suffi… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi (was: Re: type name suffi… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi (was: Re: type name suffi… Zach Shelby
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi (was: Re: type name suffi… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Carine Bournez
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Carine Bournez
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Paul Duffy
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Thomas Herbst
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Zach Shelby
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Paul E. Jones
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Carine Bournez
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Zach Shelby
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Martin Thomson
- Re: [apps-discuss] font/* t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Paul Duffy
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi psaintan
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Zach Shelby
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Paul Duffy
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Henry S. Thompson
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [apps-discuss] +exi Ned Freed