Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-received-state?
SM <sm@resistor.net> Thu, 19 January 2012 00:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-received-state?
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Hi Murray, At 15:20 18-01-2012, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: >And an interesting observation: When I wrote RFC5451, my goal was to >call Authentication-Results a trace field specifically because >preserving the order of addition of Received fields with this mixed >in is an important hint to figuring out where, and perhaps why, >message authentication work ran into problems. So I only wanted to >piggyback on the "don't reorder or change this" rule that had >already been laid out rather than re-stating Several other specifications have followed the piggyback path. In my opinion, the question is worth discussing as it is not clear whether it is an acceptable practice. > it. However, it also has an end-user purpose, which you correctly > called post-delivery MUA information. That part isn't exactly > trace information per se, or maybe it is but it's actually > MUA-actionable. So that header field is actually a mix of both > types of header field, I suppose: Agents should all follow trace > header field handling rules, but it actually contains actionable > stuff. I'm hoping it doesn't thus deserve its own hybrid category... It's easier to pretend not to see this part instead of trying to come up with a hybrid category. :-) >I think perhaps the amalgamated draft we seem to see forming between >John's and SM's proposals might do well to talk about situations >where each approach (Additional-Registered-Clause vs. new header >field) is more appropriate. I haven't discussed the approach to take with John Levine. I don't have a preference at the moment. Regards, -sm
- [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-receiv… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… John R. Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Alessandro Vesely
- [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Trace headers, was Adoption of… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [apps-discuss] possibleTrace fields registry Nico Williams
- [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry S Moonesamy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Draft for trace fields registry Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Adoption of draft-kucherawy-re… John C Klensin
- [apps-discuss] Stanzas of trace fields, was Adopt… Alessandro Vesely