Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC working group charter proposal

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sat, 06 April 2013 00:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC working group charter proposal
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Dave,

On 04/06/2013 12:52 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> 
> On 4/5/2013 4:28 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>> There's no working group that exists to
>> have such a preference
> 
> Currently, probably not.

Sigh. You deleted that I said both that this was a quibble
and that I could live with the current text if more
important things are fixed.

To be frank, I interpret that as purely argumentative
and not related to dmarc and hence not worth pursuing
further than this message.

S.

> 
> I hope you aren't asserting that it hasn't been done before.
> 
> 
>>  and the above text seems to me to indicate
>> a lack of distinction between the proponents of this draft charter
>> and an eventual WG which will inevitably involve people that are
>> not currently involved in dmarc.
> 
> Huh?  When have charters ever made such a distinction?


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> d/