Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on draft-wilde-profile-link-00
Erik Wilde <dret@berkeley.edu> Thu, 12 April 2012 16:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on draft-wilde-profile-link-00
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hello julian. On 2012-04-12 09:10 , Julian Reschke wrote: > It seems you are using "profile" in a very different way then it was > used in HTML4; is this really a good idea? i certainly do not intend to use it in a different way, because like you, i do not think that would be a good idea. my current definition is that "a profile are additional semantics that can be used to process a resource representation, such as constraints, conventions, extensions, or any other aspects that do not alter the basic media type semantics." my understanding of HTML's profile was always like this. quoting from http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#profiles : "User agents may be able to recognize the name (without actually retrieving the profile) and perform some activity based on known conventions for that profile. For instance, search engines could provide an interface for searching through catalogs of HTML documents, where these documents all use the same profile for representing catalog entries." mark also noted that he regards a profile mostly as saying something about a representation's content, such as a metadata profile in HTML, saying that the web page uses dublin core. but even when you look at the dublin core HTML profile (http://dublincore.org/documents/dcq-html/), it also defines conventions about links (http://dublincore.org/documents/dcq-html/#sect-2-4), and not just about non-link data. which is the point i was trying to make saying that the line between "format extensions" and "links" is fuzzy: essentially, a link *is* a format extension, only one that extends beyond the current resource. i am not sure i was able to fully address your concerns, so if you still think i am "redefining" what 'profile' is supposed to do, could you be a bit more specific why you think that's the case, and how you'd like to see it done? thanks a lot and cheers, dret. -- erik wilde | mailto:dret@berkeley.edu - tel:+1-510-2061079 | | UC Berkeley - School of Information (ISchool) | | http://dret.net/netdret http://twitter.com/dret |
- [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-wilde-profile-li… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-wilde-profil… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-wilde-profil… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Jan Algermissen
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] Feedback on draft-wilde-profil… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Jan Algermissen
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] [rest-discuss] Re: Feedback on… Erik Wilde
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- [apps-discuss] R: draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pub… Goix Laurent Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pu… Erik Wilde
- [apps-discuss] R: draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pub… Goix Laurent Walter
- Re: [apps-discuss] draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pu… Erik Wilde
- [apps-discuss] R: draft-wilde-profile-link-01 pub… Goix Laurent Walter
- [apps-discuss] draft-wilde-profile-link-02 publis… Erik Wilde