Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of extensions vs. deployment
Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Sat, 13 April 2013 21:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of extensions vs. deployment
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On 4/13/2013 7:13 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > At the time of chartering, DMARC has already achieved an estimated coverage of 60% of the Internet's mailboxes. Consequently, any extensions or revisions that create software or operations incompatibilities with this significant installed base need to be considered carefully. The strong preference is for the working group to preserve existing software and procedures. For changes likely to affect the installed base, the working group will actively seek to include developers and operators of DMARC-based mechanisms outside the core set of working group participants in its consensus discussions. > ===== > > To me, that says that the WG cannot produce an incremental extension because existing software and procedures would have to be updated. Speaking for myself only, of course, but... That's an unexpected interpretation of the text. Normally, an "incremental extension" is taken to mean that it provides /additional/ capabilities that are not essential to core operation. (cf., smtp extensions or mime). That is, whatever was original working will still work, albeit without whatever new and spiffy capabilities are specified in the incremental extensions. By way of a marked contrast, cf. IPv4 vs. IPv6. While I can certainly imagine a frame of mind that counts IPv6 as an "incremental extension" to IPv4, that frame of mind is certainly not the one intended for reading the draft charter. To summarize: the charter seeks to constrain work that might /force/ a change in the existing installed base, by virtue of creating an interoperability problem, rather than to necessarily constrain value-add enhancements that are optional. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group charte… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… J. Trent Adams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of extensio… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of exte… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of exte… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of exte… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] DMARC and the conflict of exte… MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
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- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… J. Trent Adams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Revised DMARC working group ch… Dave Crocker
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