Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrations
Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Tue, 15 November 2011 04:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrations
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> On 11/15/11 11:00 AM, Nico Williams wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Larry Masinter<masinter@adobe.com> wrote: > >> Who should a third-party registrar list as the "change controller" ? > > > > If collisions don't matter then who cares? Just add more collisions :) > > > > Alternatively, how about: > > > > A third party should not claim to be the owner. > > The third party could specify an owner, but that should be considered > > informative. > > Anyone could make a claim on a registration that has no owner already. > > Anyone claiming to be the owner of a registration that already has an > > owner would have to submit their claim to<fill in the blank> (IESG?), > > with appeals going to<fill in the blank> (IAB?). > > > > But I think it's better to just not have to have an owner, nor any > > change control -- it's easier and cheaper that way, particularly if it > > is true that collisions in this namespace are of little consequence. > I think I might buy into that. So the change controller and owner is > IANA, right? No, if you're going to weaken or even eliminate the owner/change controller concept - and I think this is an idea that's worth exploring - you need to do that, not put IANA in the middle of the process as some sort of substitute. > Do we expect that IANA would keep track of who has asked it > to register or modify any given entry? That's how it works currently. In practice I don't believe there has ever been a problem caused by someone registering something they shouldn't have, and there definitely have been third party registrations. Ned
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- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Frank Ellermann
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Ned Freed
- [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party registrati… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Larry Masinter
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] A modest proposal for MIME typ… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] Encouraging third party regist… Ned Freed