Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-file-scheme
Matthew Kerwin <matthew@kerwin.net.au> Fri, 15 April 2016 06:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-file-scheme
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On 13 April 2016 at 20:59, Graham Klyne <gk@ninebynine.org> wrote: > On 13/04/2016 09:28, Matthew Kerwin wrote: > >> 2. Append the transformed segment and a delimiting slash >>> >>>> >> character "/" to the URI. >>>> >> >>>> >> 6. If the path includes a file name: >>>> >> >>>> >> 1. Transform the file name to a path segment as above. >>>> >> >>>> >> 2. Append the transformed segment to the URI. >>>> >> >>>> >>> > >>> >A slash is required at the end of a directory, even if there is no file >>> >name? >>> > >>> > >>> >> If you're using it as a directory then yes. If you're using it as the >> ultimate object (the "file") then no. We defined "file" as an "object" in >> the file system earlier, which (going with the UNIX interpretation that >> everything is a file) can include directories. As far as I know most >> non-UNIXy systems around today can deal with this interpretation too. >> Should I spell it out, or leave it up to interpretation? >> >> > I'd also say "yes". > > This is an area where URI resolution works differently to file path > resolution (on some systems), so it's not just an academic point. > > If you don't include the trailing "/" on a directory used as a base URI, > then the final directory segment gets dropped when performing URI > resolution. > > Developers working in this space will know this anyway, but I think it's > important. > > That's a good point. In my working copy I've added this as a footnote to the algorithm: "" Some file systems allow directory objects to be treated as files in some cases. This can be reflected in a file URI by using the name of the ultimate directory as the file name (such that the URI does not have a trailing slash "/"). Be aware that merging a relative URI reference to such a base URI as per Section 5.2 of [RFC3986] could remove the directory name from the resulting target URI. "" Editorially a footnote might not be the best way to do it, but it gets the words in there. Does that cover it? Also, "file:///home/user" and "file:///home/user/" are different URIs per > RFC3986. It's usially a good idea to avoid gratuitous URI aliasing, which > suggests it would be good practice to always include the trailing "/". > > It's true that they are different URIs; in the same way https://example.com/foo and https://example.com/foo/ are different URIs. In that case it's the webserver itself that redirects a request for the former to the latter. I don't know if we really need to say anything more about it here, especially since we've pointed out an actual functional difference. -- Matthew Kerwin http://matthew.kerwin.net.au/
- [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-file-… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Graham Klyne
- [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review of … Dave Crocker
- [apps-discuss] Implementation (was - Re: Review o… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… t.petch
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Experimental (was - Re: Review… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Julian Reschke
- [apps-discuss] New information relating to draft-… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] New information relating to dr… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] New information relating to dr… Graham Klyne
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Julian Reschke
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Dave Crocker
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Sean Leonard
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Review of draft-ietf-appsawg-f… Sean Leonard