Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF
Frank Ellermann <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> Thu, 11 August 2011 19:10 UTC
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On 11 August 2011 19:59, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > WFM so far. Same here after figuring out that this means "works for me". There used to be a kind of consensus in the OpenSPF community, that any future version (neither v=spf1 nor spf2.0/anything) shall use only DNS SPF RRs (not TXT), and the WG should be free to say so in 4408bis if desired. The WG should be also free to say that spf2.0/anything for "mfrom" is now considered as obsolescete for the purposes of v=spf1, with more details to be determined by the WG as desired. I'd like to have it clear that 4408bis does not require or care about any spf2.0/mfrom records as noted in RFC 4406 section 4.4 clause 3, and that 4408bis shall be interpreted as specified in 4408bis, notably not as in RFC 4406 section 4.4 clause 4. This issue is already covered in the RFC 4408 security considerations, and in its IESG note at the begin, therefore 440bis should have this as clear as possible. An attempt to combine this proposal with Barry's concerns: "The WG shall not try to update other RFCs, notably 4405, 4406, 4407, or 5321/5322, but may address the spf2.0/mfrom or hypothetical spf2.0/helo scopes wrt 4408bis security considerations." -Frank
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Dave CROCKER
- [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF J.D. Falk
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF J.D. Falk
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF John Levine
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Frank Ellermann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Julian Mehnle
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Frank Ellermann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Frank Ellermann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Frank Ellermann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Barry Leiba
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Julian Mehnle
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Frank Ellermann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF J.D. Falk
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Julian Mehnle
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Dave CROCKER
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Scott Kitterman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] Updating the status of SPF Frank Ellermann