Re: [apps-discuss] APPSDIR review of draft-melnikov-smtp-priority-13

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 30 May 2012 17:31 UTC

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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
WE HAVE TO STOP REPLYING TO THE ONE WITH THE WRONG ALIAS !!!!!

> I mostly used the current wording to avoid discussing what is
> authentication. I didn't mean "authentication with SMTP AUTH", because
> authentication by IP address is quite common (and sufficient in some
> environments).

Indeed, and how we used to use "pop-before-smtp".

Maybe the best thing to do is to change this to say something like this:

 Message Submission Agents ought only accept message transfer
 priorities from users (or groups of users) who are authenticated in some
 way that's acceptable to the MSA.  As part of this policy, they can also
 restrict maximum priority values that different groups of users can
 request, and can override the priority values specified by MUAs.

Note also the shift from normative language here, because it's
entirely a policy decision.  If you want to let the inmates run your
asylum, well, knock yourself out.

Barry