Re: [apps-discuss] HYBI

[Salvatore Loreto <[e-mail]>]

On 3/25/11 7:41 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
> Dave Cridland wrote:
>
>> >  On Tue Mar 22 07:49:22 2011, Graham Klyne wrote:
>> >
>>> >>  FWIW, I can think of two simple (to describe) capabilities that
>>> >>  would help to make the web more widely usable as a application
>>> >>  platform:
>>> >>
>>> >>  (a) a*simple*  mechanism for pushing asynchronous notifications to  a
>>> >>  web application (browser-based or otherwise).  I had early hopes  for
>>> >>  HyBi, but have somewhat given up.
>> >
>> >  As have many.
> While I understand community frustration about HYBI WG discussions, I
> think people really need to look now at the latest protocol spec. The
> document has been improved substantially and I think it is actually
> implementable at this point in time.
>
while I agree that as all the things in this world,
the WebSocket protocol could have been designed differently
and I understand that has been challenging and some time also 
frustrating for people to follow the intensive
and long mail discussion,
I do think (but I am biased here) in HyBi we (at IETF) have done, and we 
are still doing, an incredible effort to merge
different cultures or at least make them to work together in a 
productive way

the last version 06 has improved a lot: ( 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-06 )
and there are already a lot of implementations of 06 draft (from both 
sides browsers and web severs)
and more are under development and will be announced soon.
We will try to give an overview of the situation at the upcoming HyBi 
session

of course there are still open issues that need to be discussed,
and need to reach consensus ...  but are few and almost all of them are 
to improve (simplify) something

cheers
/Sal

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Salvatore Loreto
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