Re: [apps-discuss] Fwd: Fwd: Civil suit; ftp shutdown; mailing list shutdown

Eliot Lear <> Fri, 07 October 2011 06:46 UTC

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As the co-author of the draft in question who is NOT a party to this
suit, let me say this:

1.  The authors are aware of the suit;
2.  The IESG is aware of the suit;
3.  ICANN and IANA is aware of the suit;
4.  The IASA is aware of the suit.
5.  Lawyers are involved.

Please give us just a little while to sort a response.


On 10/7/11 5:08 AM, Frank Ellermann wrote:
> On 7 October 2011 01:24, "Martin J. Dürst" wrote:
>> Forwarded to the IETF because we are also affected, and we
>> may also be able to help out.
> Hi, so far I thought that the TZ database will be hosted by
> IANA - same idea as for similar IANA registries such as the
> charsets or the langtags.
> Obviously there should be some kind of "expert" mailing list,
> again the same idea as for similar IANA registries.  If the
> old TZ mailing list was closed I guess the IETF could create
> a new list.  Maybe somebody can donate their private archive
> of the old list, but IIRC GMaNe already has a public archive.
> The new list should be added to the "IETF non-WG" page, in
> essence somebody enters the required info into a Web form
> and picks a responsible AD for the confirmation.  If that AD
> (Peter or Pete) confirmed it the IETF secretary adds the info
> on the "non-WG list" page.  Fairly simple, but I have no idea
> how it is supposed to work if the list does not yet exist.
> With this ugly lawsuit business one of the I* Chairs has to
> inform the legal counsel, because it might be a case for the
> I* insurance.  (They are protected, including IAB, ADs, and
> WG chairs; excluding authors.)
> The TZ database is precious.  This problem should be tackled
> by the IESG + Trust + IAB; trying it here is not good enough.
> -Frank
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