Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP

[Alexey Melnikov <[e-mail]>]

On 09/01/2012 23:48, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John C Klensin [mailto:[e-mail]]
>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:38 PM
>> To: Murray S. Kucherawy
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>> Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Spam reporting over IMAP
>>
>> Conclusion:
>>
>> Not ready from prime time.  Not even ready for a careful and
>> comprehensive review.
>>
>> You asked.
> I did, and thanks for that.
>
> I think at this point perhaps a higher-level question is in order: Are we (either IETF in general, or APPSAWG specifically) interested in or willing to put time into developing this in conjunction with OMA?  Would this be something ultimately beneficial to have, and have it come from us?
>
> I suppose I'm also concerned with the idea of an external SDO, on getting a "no" from us, deciding they want to do this anyway so they publish their own (unsanctioned, of course) IMAP extension only to have it see some level of ubiquity as a result.  Indeed it may be possible that this is coming to us only because some OMA member organizations have already developed and are deploying this, at least experimentally.  There's friction between geopriv and OMA's LOC WG of this nature already which I'd just as soon resolve sooner rather than later somehow.
As an individual participant:
I don't think this is yet deployed, but there is a need in something 
like that and yes, there is a risk that OMA will do the job if IETF says 
"no", but does so badly. (Not a strong argument to do anything, but if 
we (IETF) want to help, I think we should.)

I am happy to work on something in this space. But I am not going to do 
that if nobody else is interested.
(I don't have an opinion yet on whether this belongs to APPSAWG, but I 
am happy to help out either way.)