Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols

Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com> Thu, 24 March 2011 14:41 UTC

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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:43:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] IETF technical plenary: the end of application protocols
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:35, Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
>> > I would love to see a world where the Web does what it's good at - that
>> > is, delivering static content, including application code and UI content -
>> > and protocols such as XMPP do what they're good at - that is, providing
>> > dynamic data between known federated entities.
>>
>> How likely do you think is this going to happen?
>
> Sadly, probably very unlikely. Who's going to provide the kind of leadership
> we'd need to have a coherent architecture for the internet, instead of one
> that emerges driven by a few service providers?
>
> Dave.

I believe it was in Munich, oh so many years ago, that Dave Clark said
"architect the inevitable".  Yes we preserve the model of peer-to-peer
symmetric communications.  We know it and other principles are
fundamental necessities for future adaptability.  At the same time we
engineer all sorts of stuff that is just subsets, that does not follow
our fundamental principles completely, because it meets users' needs
right now.