Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on the Internet
Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org> Wed, 20 March 2013 11:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on the Internet
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(trimmed the cc list) On 19 Mar 2013, at 22:36, Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org> wrote: > There is one other issue with ECN: when operating at low bandwidth at the very edge of the net, it can still be advantageous to drop a packet rather than ECN mark it, to get back the transmission time of the packet. Dave Taht's experiments (IIRC) were below 4Mbps for this advantage (when doing VOIP over that bottleneck competing against other traffic in a best effort class). Hmmm. According to Akamai, global average connection speeds remain stubbornly below 4Mbps [1], so if Dave's analysis is correct, an unsophisticated ECN-deployment campaign may be counterproductive. Mat [1] http://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2013/02/internet-connection-speeds-and-right-some
- [aqm] ECN support and usage on the Internet Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [aqm] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on the Int… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [aqm] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on the Int… Jim Gettys
- Re: [aqm] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on the Int… Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [aqm] ECN support and usage on the Internet Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [aqm] 答复: [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usag… Jim Gettys
- Re: [aqm] 答复: [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usag… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on the Int… Rick Jones
- Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on… Glen Turner
- Re: [aqm] 答复: [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usag… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on… Matthew Ford
- Re: [aqm] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on the Int… Emmanuel Lochin
- Re: [aqm] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on the Int… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [aqm] 答复: [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usag… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on… Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [aqm] ECN support and usage on the Internet Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [aqm] ECN support and usage on the Internet Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] 答复: [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usag… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [aqm] 答复: [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usag… Simon Barber
- Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on… Naeem Khademi
- Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on… Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on… John Leslie
- Re: [aqm] [iccrg] [tcpm] ECN support and usage on… Ilpo Järvinen