Re: [aqm] Status of the GSP AQM?

Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> Thu, 14 December 2017 21:59 UTC

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To: Roland Bless <roland.bless@kit.edu>, "aqm@ietf.org" <aqm@ietf.org>, "LAUTENSCHLAEGER, Wolfram (Wolfram)" <wolfram.lautenschlaeger@nokia.com>
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Subject: Re: [aqm] Status of the GSP AQM?
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On 12/14/2017 4:35 PM, Roland Bless wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I was wondering what happened to the GSP AQM proposal
> (draft-lauten-aqm-gsp see
> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lauten-aqm-gsp).
> Discussion seems to have ended after IETF 93 and we probably
> missed the point of discussing WG adoption.
> IMHO this AQM should also be documented as RFC. It performs extremely
> well in some settings (better than CoDel or PIE) and its implementation
> complexity is also lower. Wolfram, are you interested in finishing this?
> Should we continue in tsvwg?
>

I mentioned GSP as a possible work item, back when we were discussing 
rechartering, but apparently it was not compelling to the group at that 
time.

When we did the AQM algorithm adoption call ~2014, GSP appeared to be 
basically viable technically, but there wasn't evidence that multiple 
parties were interested in working with it enough to go forward (not 
just working the document, but implementing, simulating, testing, 
analyzing, deploying, etc).   There is a thread in the archives with 
subject "[aqm] adoption call: algorithm drafts".

I haven't noticed a change in activity around GSP since then, but 
apologize if I'm just ignorant of it!