Re: [arch-d] Network Architecture in the Internet Society

Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> Fri, 31 January 2020 06:26 UTC

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From: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:26:32 +0700
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Dear Russ & architecture-discuss,


I have just added Leva. T & H. Suommi's "Framework of Analyzing Feasibility
of Internet Protocols" to the before-mentioned list of readings by "Add
Comment" Facility in the OPEN FORUM Community Library:


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To the list of readings above (Consolidation of the Internet: from the
Socio-Economic to the Architectural) may I add "Framework of Analyzing
Feasibility of Internet Potocols" (Leva, T. & H. Suommi, the IAB Workshop
on Internet Technology Adootion and Transition 2013) which was ever to be
part of architecture-discuss@ietf.org "Centralization or diversity?"
January 22th 2020:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/architecture-discuss/sdTkLd7q7wXyfAnjJQlNceWPr8U


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Note:
To clarify what I said in the previous message:
I mean the architecture-discuss@ietf.org and the OPEN FORUM Community
Library may be about a networked community of reading, a networked library.






Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Jumat, 31 Januari 2020, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
menulis:

> Dear Russ and architecture-discuss,
>
> The post  in OPEN Forum Community Library is about those document saved in
> the architecture-discuss mailarchive I mentioned above plus
>
>  Arkko, Jarri et all., "Considerations on the Internet Consolidation and
> the Internet Architecture", Internet-Draft, IETF, Expired April 2019
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-iab-internet-consolidation-00
>
> While, I have not included yet that of T. Leva and H. Suommi's...
>
> I emphasized on socio-economic and architectural learnings attempted by
> those documents there--while the post at architecture-discuss emphazised on
> feasibility of the Internet architecture in relation with aesthetic and
> ethic experiences.
>
> This is what I saved in OPEN FORUM Community Library:
>
> "Consolidation of the Internet: From the Socio-Economic to the
> Architectural"
>
> This documents refer to "Consolidation in the Internet" which is of
> economic and architectural approaches and perspectives:
>
> - ISOC Global Internet Report Consolidation in the Internet Economy
> https://future.internetsociety.org/2019/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/
> 04/InternetSociety-GlobalInternetReport-ConsolidationintheInternetEcon
> omy.pdf
> - Arkko, Jarri et all., "Considerations on the Internet Consolidation and
> the Internet Architecture", Internet-Draft, IETF, Expired April 2019
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-iab-internet-consolidation-00
> - Sullivan, Andrew, "Three Kinds of Concentration in Open Protocols",
> IAB-DEDR Workshop 2019 https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2019/05/
> p7-sulllivan-three_kinds_concentration_ajs_dedr.pdf
> - Arkko, Jarri, "Centralized Architecture in Internet Architecture",
> Internet Draft, 2019
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-arkko-arch-infrastructure-
> centralisation-00.txt
> Kutscher, Dirk, "Protocol Design and Socio-economic Realities", in the
> IAB-DEDR Workshop 2019
> https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2019/05/
> p14-kutscher-internet-design-kutscher.pdf
>
>
> Note: This post is related with another one in this "Open Forum":
> Restream: Internet Consolidation: What Lies beneath the Application
> Layer..." (December 14th 2019) https://connect.internetsociety.org/
> communities/community-home/digestviewer/viewthread?GroupId=67&MessageKey=
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> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Jumat, 31 Januari 2020, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
> menulis:
>
>> Dear Russ and architecture-discuss,
>>
>>
>> I am new there, I have not know muc "how to": I think one needs to create
>> an account in the Internet Society to join with OPEN FORUM Community to
>> access its features:
>>
>> https://www.internetsociety.org/become-a-member/
>>
>>
>> But at this architecture-discuss, where we are now, one may simply access
>> its mail archives for the documents on "Consolidation of the Internet" --so
>> it is nothing new but such a networked community of reading, such a
>> networked library:
>>
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/architecture-discuss/s
>> dTkLd7q7wXyfAnjJQlNceWPr8U
>>
>> I find no search engine facility for documents at OPEN FORUM community
>> Library while there is one at architecture-discuss mail archive.
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Jumat, 31 Januari 2020, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> menulis:
>>
>>> Is there a way to see the document without creating an account?
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2020, at 4:37 AM, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear architecture-discuss,
>>>
>>> Documents related with the current issues on "consolidation of the
>>> Internet" saved in the "Open Forum" community of the Internet Society:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://connect.internetsociety.org/viewdocument/consolidati
>>> on-of-the-internet-from?CommunityKey=3a9fa082-a518-475d-9e7f
>>> -ecec4ffe56dd&tab=librarydocuments#ItemCommentPanel
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>>
>>>