Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program

John Leslie <john@jlc.net> Sun, 25 August 2019 16:58 UTC

Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 12:48:39 -0400
From: John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
To: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
Cc: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, Chris Morrow <morrowc@ops-netman.net>, architecture-discuss@iab.org
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program
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Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with the above, still, the reason for which QUIC employs UDP
> (rather than doing mux/demux by itself) is because you can't deploy new
> transport protocols on the Internet.

   Yes, QUIC employs UDP because they despaired of deploying a new
transport protocol.

   However, architecture-discuss@iab.org _really_shouldn't_ abandon hope
of deploying a new transport protocol: it's _hard_; it may not happen in
my lifetime; but the Internet, or its replacement, _will_ need a new
transport procotol some day...

--
John Leslie <john@jlc.net>

[arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution … Brian Trammell (IETF)
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Brian Trammell (IETF)
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Tommy Pauly
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Chris Morrow
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Ted Hardie
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Tommy Pauly
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Chris Morrow
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… John Leslie
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Christian Huitema
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… John Leslie
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… John Leslie
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Fernando Gont
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… John Leslie
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolut… Tony Li