Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet trust model evolution
Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> Thu, 30 January 2020 07:11 UTC
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From: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 14:11:23 +0700
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet trust model evolution
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Dear architecture-discuss, To add the note I made in the previous message: An Individual/person, by network society with ICTs as a structural matrix, is a momentous synthesis, or a conflict domain --there may be still existed conflicts accompanying her/his choices of acts--, of networks of things/languages with/for/to/among which s/he celebrates/affirmes her/his life/existence... I am referring to notions on "Network Society" and "Networks of Languages" worked in: - "Informationalism, Technology and Network Society" (Manuel Catells) https://annenberg.usc.edu/sites/default/files/2015/04/28/Informationalism%2C%20Networks%20and%20the%20Network%20Society.pdf - here, it may deserve to note that in its forweword to "Leveraging Tech..." report Antonio Gueterez beginned with the term "networked society" "Our networked society is changing the way we live. The impact and implications of the digital revolution are becoming more evident with each passing hour. The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development recognizes the great potential of global connectivity to spur human progress. It challenges us to ensure universal and affordable Internet access for all". https://www.itu.int/en/sustainable-world/Documents/Fast-forward_progress_report_414709%20FINAL.pdf - J. F. Lyotard, "The Postmodern Conditions: a Report on Knowledge" section "Elementary Nature of Social Ties: Posmodern Perspective" as there was mentioned about society defined by "networks of language" Regard, Guntur Wiseno Putra Pada Kamis, 30 Januari 2020, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> menulis: > Hi Robin > > > On 29 Jan 2020, at 22:17, Robin Wilton <wilton@isoc.org> wrote: > > > > Thanks, both. As I read your comments, one phrase kept presenting itself > to me... > > “user agency”. What is it, in the system, that is giving effect to the > user’s intention and preferences. > > Good point. > > I was going to write out an example of how this would play out, but I am > beginning to wonder if an I-D would do better, so as to memorialize a bit > better the discussion. This assumes it’s where the IAB wants to go. > > Eliot > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture-discuss mailing list > Architecture-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss >
- [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet tru… Jari Arkko
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Joachim Fabini
- Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Ted Hardie
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Christian Huitema
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet… Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Vittorio Bertola
- [arch-d] Yes, building blocks ; -) Re: not buildi… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… John C Klensin
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] not building blocks (was: Re: [Model… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] not building blocks (was: Re: [Model… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] not building blocks (was: Re: [Model… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] not building blocks (was: Re: [Model… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Watson Ladd
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet… Jari Arkko
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Jari Arkko
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Robin Wilton
- Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet… Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] [Model-t] Possible new IAB program o… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet… Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Possible new IAB program on Internet… Guntur Wiseno Putra