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From: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:21:13 +0700
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Dear architecture-discuss
(S. Moonesamy, Mark, Elliot, Brian and Others having concerns on "End
User"),


Those readings I mentioned in the previous message (on "E-Agriculture" and
"Leveraging Tech") remind me about another one, which was about
"Information Society", I ever suggested as a reference to Brian Carpenter's
& Bing Liu's "Limited Domains and Internet Protocols" with its
architectural programme.

This was sent to int-area@ietf.org (April 16th 2019)

 "As the Internet continues to grow and diversify, with a realistic
   prospect of tens of billions of nodes being connected directly and
   indirectly, there is a noticeable trend towards local requirements,
   behaviours and semantics".


The first sentence of the Internet Draft "Limited Domains and Internet
Protocols" reminds me about what was said in the International
Telecommunication Union of the United Nations "Measuring Information
Society 2018" that more than half of the world's population is now online.

https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Pages/publications/misr2018.aspx

".

It was a report pointing out current state of ICTs, ICTs skill for the
future, ICTs revenue and investment trends, and ICTs price trends...


Regards,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Kamis, 26 Desember 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
menulis:

> Dear architecture-discuss
> (S. Moonesamy, Mark, Elliot and others having concerns on the discussion
> on "End Users"),
>
> How do initiatives become such creative impulse of Information and
> Communication Technologies...? --network-based ones...? --as international
> institutions are part of...?
>
> Below are documents worked by international instutions may deserve
> attentions:
>
> FAO & ITU, 2016, "E-Agriculture Strategy Guide: Piloted in Asia-Pacific
> Countries", 222 pages, accessed December 26th 2019
>
> (Hopefully there would no problem when accesing the document as I have
> just gotten it but fortunately I still have the copy.)
>
>
> I finded the document, published by the Food and Agriculture Organization
> and the International Telecommunication Union of the United Nations,
> concerned with "an emerging field focusing on the enhancement of
> agricultural and rural development through improved information and
> communication processes
>
> ...    More specifically, e-agriculture involves the conceptualization,
> design, development, evaluation
> and application of innovative ways to use ICTs in the rural domain, with a
> primary focus on
> agriculture".
>
> In "Annex B" there were examples of ICT innovations in agriculture and
> rural development.
>
> A page on "E-Agriculture" by the FAO is
>
> http://www.fao.org/in-action/e-agriculture-strategy-guide/en/
>
>
> Another is
>
> The ITU of the UN report “Fast-forward Progress: Leveraging tech to
> achieve the global goals” (https://www.itu.int/en/sustai
> nable-world/Documents/Fast-forward_progress_report_414709%20FINAL.pdf)
> about insights in using ICTs to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals —
> as the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development recognizes the possibilities
> of global connectivity to spur humanity.
>
> There are supposedly others...
>
>
> Regard
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
>
> Pada Kamis, 26 Desember 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
> menulis:
>
>>
>> Dear S. Moonsamy,
>>
>> Apologize for days to respond your messages...
>>
>> "Innacurate information"...?
>>
>> Shall we take moments for such a "pedagogy of networks"...? -- as the
>> information above was about the networks of communications and
>> informations, about the Internet and the Web, released by the Web's
>> inventor himself Tim Berners-Lee...?
>>
>>
>> To look at the two documents means a historical reading on the Internet's
>> history, its evolvabilities:
>>
>> - The 1st RFC (1969) discussed about "tentative agreements reached and
>> some of opened questions" on ARPA networks, its softwares (IMP and Host
>> ones) --among which was a consideration on "users" (simple use and deep
>> use).
>>
>> - "The Stack of Specifications" (2002/2003, a section of "Design Issues:
>> Architectural and Philosophical Points") was a description, by the Web's
>> inventor himself, about how the Internet and the Web work together (having
>> an ethernet cables, sending an Internet packet, sending a TCP packet,
>> introducing IANA: port registry numbers, sending an e-mail, publishing a
>> web page, publishing a XML document, publishing a RDF document; then he
>> identified hooks--identifiers and problem "when the chain does not
>> connect").. of which he said that the Web users sign on languages (to name
>> the interoperavility of computers, hardwares, operating systems, local
>> language contexts, and software suppliers) when using the Internet.
>>
>> - "What are about our present and future..."? is supposedly part of such
>> a historical reading...
>>
>>
>> Regard;
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>>
>>
>> Pada Kamis, 26 Desember 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>> menulis:
>>
>>> Dear S. Moonsamy,
>>>
>>> Apologize for days to respond your messages...
>>>
>>> "Innacurate information"...?
>>>
>>> Shall we take moments for such a "pedagogy of networks"...? -- as the
>>> information above was about the networks of communications and
>>> informations, about the Internet and the Web, released by the Web's
>>> inventor himself...?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regard;
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>> Pada Minggu, 15 Desember 2019, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>>> Dear Guntur,
>>>> At 09:32 PM 14-12-2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would it be inspiring...?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would not describe inaccurate information as inspiring.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> S. Moonesamy
>>>>
>>>