Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- considered harmful

Matthew Kerwin <matthew@kerwin.net.au> Tue, 07 May 2019 21:50 UTC

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From: Matthew Kerwin <matthew@kerwin.net.au>
Date: Wed, 08 May 2019 07:50:41 +1000
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To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Cc: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, "iab@iab.org" <iab@iab.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com>, "architecture-discuss@ietf.org" <architecture-discuss@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- considered harmful
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On Wed., 8 May 2019, 06:56 Barry Leiba, <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:

> > Question for ya on that Barry - do you think that MUA
> > and mail server implementers would actually bounce
> > messages as strictly as Martin's document might call
> > for? I'm not one of those implementers, so I don't know,
> > but I'd not be surprised to hear that in fact they'd
> > continue to prioritise mail delivery (for non spam)
> > over protocol purity.
>
> No, of course not, not today, not with the history we have.  But if
> they had *from the beginning*, we wouldn't be where we are.  And
> that's the point.
>
> Barry
>
>
If the Internet (and particularly the web) hadn't "mostly just worked"
despite us doing it all wrong, it might not have taken off at all.

Cheers
Matthew Kerwin

Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Barry Leiba
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Stephen Farrell
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Andrew G. Malis
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Barry Leiba
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Warren Kumari
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Tony Li
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Stephen Farrell
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Adam Roach
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Salz, Rich
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Joel M. Halpern
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Adam Roach
Re: [arch-d] [IAB] deprecating Postel's principle… Christian Huitema
Re: [arch-d] [IAB] deprecating Postel's principle… Stephen Farrell
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Matthew Kerwin
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Rich Kulawiec
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] [IAB] deprecating Postel's principle… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Christian Huitema
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Brian E Carpenter
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Mark Andrews
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Paul Wouters
Re: [arch-d] [IAB] deprecating Postel's principle… Randy Bush
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Carsten Bormann
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Jari Arkko
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… John C Klensin
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Bless, Roland (TM)
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Joe Touch
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Henry S. Thompson
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… S Moonesamy
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Eliot Lear
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Carsten Bormann
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Eliot Lear
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Bob Briscoe
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Henning Schulzrinne
Re: [arch-d] deprecating Postel's principle- cons… Henry S. Thompson