Re: [arch-d] our troubles [was: ETSI launches new group on Non-IP Networking addressing 5G new services]

[Uma Chunduri <[e-mail]>]

in-line..

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 3:32 PM Brian E Carpenter <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> I think Uma's question deserves some thought:
>
> On 09-Apr-20 14:10, Uma Chunduri wrote:
> >     >  All our troubles will soon be over
> >
> >
> > While I don't know all their troubles by reading that announcement;
> would definitely love to hear what do you think our troubles are ...(if
> any). *
>
> I know I've said it before, but I sum it up as "you can't beat queueing
> theory".


Right. And yes, statistical multiplexing  would always be there.

I don't know how we are going to meet stringent real-time requirements in a
> network architecture that fundamentally assumes contention and queues (and
> has done since 1969). I don't how ETSI is going to do that either.
>

Me too.

However, there is lot of work happening in various forums including
IEEE/TSN, research communities and  other SDOs. This is one of the aspects
perhaps IRTF or some other relevant forum in IETF can look into; if at all
if, there is a forum to see better than BE stuff and how it can co-exist
with BE with our transport layer fairness principles.

Remember there could be other aspects too.

mIOT stuff. There was  this topic on "potentially" billions of  IoT (non
vehicular or non UAV UEs), which are resource constrained and can't do
(IPv6) header compression. These devices emit smaller amount of data
connecting to the radio and the associated spectrum cost (one of the most
sacred and expensive resource in that domain)...

--
Uma C.


>
>    Brian
>
> >
> > --
> > Uma C.
> >
> > [*] Appreciate your  work and concur a lot on
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-limited-domains-13 .
> >
> >
> >  On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 9:59 PM Brian E Carpenter <
> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >     All our troubles will soon be over, apparently:
> >
> >
> https://www.etsi.org/newsroom/press-releases/1749-2020-04-etsi-launches-new-group-on-non-ip-networking-addressing-5g-new-services
> >
> >     Stay well
> >        Brian Carpenter
> >
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