Re: [arch-d] possible new IAB programme on Internet resilience

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 23 December 2019 20:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] possible new IAB programme on Internet resilience
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Hiya,

Just on his bit for now, more on the more technical stuff
after the holidays (from me at least:-)

On 23/12/2019 09:25, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> 4. Politics and Openness
> 
> IMHO, Resilience and related "metrics" of reliability are at the
> core of at least the public explanations of several political
> actions today such as US congress bills (e.g.: "Defending America's
> 5G Future") and US govt action (such as the Huawei EAR rulings).
> 
> In face of these political challenges for open global collaboration, 
> i would highly recommend to not charter a program like this as an 
> "by-invitation-only" IAB program (as described in the current draft 
> charter), but as an "everyone-is-welcome-to-contribute" program,
> more like an IETF working group. Otherwise, the program would be seen
> as yet another politically divisive step by those not invited to 
> contribute.

Fair point. AIUI, the IAB's intent is to be that open, and
that so long as everything happens on an open list and in
open meetings, we're ok wrt the current weird EAR stuff.
(But IANAL of course.)

I am quite sure the IAB do not want to set this up in a way
that might prevent anyone from participating.

That could still allow the IAB to appoint some people to
be programme members in some sense though - I think the
idea was that that might be useful as a way to help
enable some people to stay involved over the longer term,
while not being an exclusive membership. But yeah, if that were
perceived as being divisive or forming an exclusive club, I reckon
that'd be counter-productive.

Cheers,
S.