Re: [arch-d] New Version Notification for draft-iab-for-the-users-01.txt

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sat, 01 February 2020 23:18 UTC

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Hi Mark,
At 06:51 AM 01-02-2020, Mark Nottingham wrote:
>I'm a bit confused by your line of questioning here. Section 4.1 
>explains why we need to account for users' needs, but shouldn't 
>expect users to just show up and represent them. So, it suggests 
>some ways we might improve over the status quo.
>
>No one person or organisation represents' users needs; it's much 
>more complex than that.

I apologize for the strong reply and the line of questioning.  The 
questions which I sent were difficult ones.  It is, as you mentioned, 
a complex matter.

Some parts in Section 4.1 are about accounting for users' needs by 
engaging with groups which are representative of the users.  Such an 
approach would not unfeasible.  One way in which organizations tackle 
that is to identify some form of representativity where users are 
represented under civil society.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy