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Re: [arch-d] ETSI launches new group on Non-IP Networking addressing 5G new services

Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> Fri, 17 April 2020 20:45 UTC

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From: Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] ETSI launches new group on Non-IP Networking addressing 5G new services
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Don’t forget Yakov and Tony Li.

Dino

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:48 PM, John Day <jeanjour@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> 
> Dave Katz, Dave Oran, Lyman Chapin, Sue Hares, those guys and some others. They were the ones who were doing CLNP, IS-IS, IDRP, etc. It was a top-notch crew.
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:13, Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> TUBA/CLNS was an ISO effort. It is true that it does have a ITU number but nearly all OSI standards had both an ISO number and an ITU number. 
>> 
>> This is not true. 
>> 
>> We did all the TUBA work in the IETF. And we had multiple implementations running interoperability tests at the Amsterdam IETF in 1993. Ross Callon, Peter Ford and Richard Colella, among others were part of the effort.
>> 
>> I remember telneting from a cisco router using an NSAP address to telnet server implementations from Peter and Richard.
>> 
>> Dino
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