Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mandatory Client-side Scanning of Content
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sat, 16 December 2023 20:09 UTC
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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:07:44 -0800
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mandatory Client-side Scanning of Content
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Dear Internet Architecture Board, At 11:45 AM 15-12-2023, IAB Executive Administrative Manager wrote: >The Internet Architecture Board has posted a new IAB Statement on >Encryption and Mandatory Client-side Scanning of Content. I was a bit surprised when I saw the statement about encryption and mandatory client-side scanning of content as I was not aware that it was a matter of interest to the Internet Architecture Board (IAB). The statement starts with a paragraph about supporting human rights with respect to privacy and freedom of opinion. The second paragraph quotes legislation being in the United Kingdom, the European Union and the United States as "policy proposals". The term used is a bit odd. Is the IAB providing input to the legislators in those countries? There is a paragraph about government control into communication. The paragraph ends with a statement about the IETF Community. Did the IAB or any of its members seek the opinion of the IETF Community? If so, I would appreciate a pointer to where the discussion happened. I am at a loss on how mandatory use of client-side scanning could restrict the use of open-source software as the statement does not explain that. I would like to commend the members of the IAB for acknowledging the concern about societal harms. I do have some reservations about the rest of the sentence. For example, the definition of "illegal content" varies across countries. I could not find the document referenced as "[7]". Could you please share the reference? As a nit, the reference to RFC9490 points to an I-D. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… George Michaelson
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Christian Huitema
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Andrew Campling
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Andrew Campling
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eric Rescorla
- [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Encrypt… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Arnaud Taddei
- Re: [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Enc… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [arch-d] [EXTERNAL] Re: IAB Statement on Encr… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Enc… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mallory Knodel
- Re: [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Enc… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: [arch-d] Off topic [was: IAB Statement on Enc… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… John Levine
- Re: [arch-d] IAB Statement on Encryption and Mand… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [arch-d] [IAB] IAB Statement on Encryption an… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)