Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by the Internet Society

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Wed, 01 April 2020 01:58 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:57:35 -0700
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] A Course on Network Engineering by the Internet Society
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n Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:56 PM Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Toerless, Jay, Mirja, Lars, Eric &
> architecture-discuss,
>
> Thank you, I am reading yours
>
> So, should we ingnore irrelevant things...?
>

Yes, we should ignore irrelevant material but you should also stop posting
irrelevant material to this list.

-Ekr


>
>
>
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Rabu, 01 April 2020, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> menulis:
>
>> Thanks. I got a message that it was awaiting moderator
>> approval, and for usually non-moderated lists that typically means
>> it won't get processed. Sorry if i double posted because of that
>> problem.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 08:27:03AM +1300, Jay Daley wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 1/04/2020, at 8:21 AM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > architecture-discuss mailing list seems to be configured as to not
>> allow
>> > > it to be Bcc'ed, so not easy to move a discussion. Appended her what
>> > > i sent.
>> >
>> > Your bcc worked.
>> >
>> > Jay
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > >    Toerless
>> > >
>> > >> From tte@cs.fau.de Tue Mar 31 21:08:45 2020
>> > > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:08:45 +0200
>> > > From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs..fau.de <tte@cs.fau.de>>
>> > > To: opsawg@ietf.org
>> > > Cc: Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>> > > Bcc: architecture-discuss@ietf.org
>> > > In-Reply-To: <
>> CAKi_AEuTOBDsUqqN-0dOGiwXriSyf9zYrDrabx0e-ngWDPoXRA@mail.gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > [Bcc: architecture-discuss]
>> > > [Thanks, Guntur for forwarding]
>> > >
>> > > Guntur got some negative responses on architecture-discuss for posting
>> > > the info below, i hope questions about this to opsawg will find a
>> > > friendlier reception:
>> > >
>> > > - I thought it was great to see that ISOC engages in supporting
>> > >  operations, i was not aware of this.
>> > >
>> > > - where would i have found an original announcement about something
>> like
>> > >  this ? isoc mailing list(s) i can subscribe to without personally
>> > >  being a member to ISOC personally ?
>> > >
>> > > - I was wondering if there are actually any i* mailing lists for
>> > >  operators to discuss ops, e.g.: whoever would take this course before
>> > >  or after (certainly beyond scope of opsawg).
>> > >
>> > >  I asked the email given on the isoc page, but got no response
>> > >  (learning@isoc.org).
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > >    Toerless
>> > >
>> > >> _______________________________________________
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>> > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:05:24PM +0700, Guntur Wiseno Putra wrote:
>> > >> Dear architecture-discuss,
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> An update on "Network Engineering" released by the Internet Society
>> --this
>> > >> information I formerly got from Kevin Chege, Internet Society..
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Online Course: Introduction to Network OperationsUNIX/Linux,
>> Networking &
>> > >> Domain Name System (DNS)The deadline for applications is 2 April
>> 2020.
>> > >>
>> > >> https://www.internetsociety.org/learning/network-operations/
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Regard,
>> > >> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>> > >
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>> > --
>> > Jay Daley
>> > jay@daley.org.nz
>> > +64 21 678840
>> >
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