Re: [arch-d] Network Architecture in the Internet Society

Guntur Wiseno Putra <> Fri, 31 January 2020 05:05 UTC

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Dear Russ and architecture-discuss,

The post  in OPEN Forum Community Library is about those document saved in
the architecture-discuss mailarchive I mentioned above plus

 Arkko, Jarri et all., "Considerations on the Internet Consolidation and
the Internet Architecture", Internet-Draft, IETF, Expired April 2019

While, I have not included yet that of T. Leva and H. Suommi's...

I emphasized on socio-economic and architectural learnings attempted by
those documents there--while the post at architecture-discuss emphazised on
feasibility of the Internet architecture in relation with aesthetic and
ethic experiences.

This is what I saved in OPEN FORUM Community Library:

"Consolidation of the Internet: From the Socio-Economic to the

This documents refer to "Consolidation in the Internet" which is of
economic and architectural approaches and perspectives:

- ISOC Global Internet Report Consolidation in the Internet Economy

- Arkko, Jarri et all., "Considerations on the Internet Consolidation and
the Internet Architecture", Internet-Draft, IETF, Expired April 2019
- Sullivan, Andrew, "Three Kinds of Concentration in Open Protocols",
IAB-DEDR Workshop 2019

- Arkko, Jarri, "Centralized Architecture in Internet Architecture",
Internet Draft, 2019
Kutscher, Dirk, "Protocol Design and Socio-economic Realities", in the
IAB-DEDR Workshop 2019

Note: This post is related with another one in this "Open Forum": Restream:
Internet Consolidation: What Lies beneath the Application Layer..."
(December 14th 2019)

Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Jumat, 31 Januari 2020, Guntur Wiseno Putra <>

> Dear Russ and architecture-discuss,
> I am new there, I have not know muc "how to": I think one needs to create
> an account in the Internet Society to join with OPEN FORUM Community to
> access its features:
> But at this architecture-discuss, where we are now, one may simply access
> its mail archives for the documents on "Consolidation of the Internet" --so
> it is nothing new but such a networked community of reading, such a
> networked library:
> sdTkLd7q7wXyfAnjJQlNceWPr8U
> I find no search engine facility for documents at OPEN FORUM community
> Library while there is one at architecture-discuss mail archive.
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
> Pada Jumat, 31 Januari 2020, Russ Housley <> menulis:
>> Is there a way to see the document without creating an account?
>> Russ
>> On Jan 29, 2020, at 4:37 AM, Guntur Wiseno Putra <>
>> wrote:
>> Dear architecture-discuss,
>> Documents related with the current issues on "consolidation of the
>> Internet" saved in the "Open Forum" community of the Internet Society:
>> on-of-the-internet-from?CommunityKey=3a9fa082-a518-475d-
>> 9e7f-ecec4ffe56dd&tab=librarydocuments#ItemCommentPanel
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra