Re: [arch-d] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-09.txt

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+1

Much easier to understand -

Much thanks for the edits-
Deborah


-----Original Message-----
From: IAB <iab-bounces@iab.org> On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:15 PM
To: iab@iab.org
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Subject: Re: [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-09.txt

Hi,

This version is much improved and seems well-balanced. Thanks.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 19-Oct-22 19:34, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Internet Architecture Board IETF of the IETF.
> 
>          Title           : Maintaining Robust Protocols
>          Authors         : Martin Thomson
>                            David Schinazi
>    Filename        : draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-09.txt
>    Pages           : 15
>    Date            : 2022-10-18
> 
> Abstract:
>     The main goal of the networking standards process is to enable the
>     long term interoperability of protocols.  This document describes
>     active protocol maintenance, a means to accomplish that goal.  By
>     evolving specifications and implementations, it is possible to reduce
>     ambiguity over time and create a healthy ecosystem.
> 
>     The robustness principle, often phrased as "be conservative in what
>     you send, and liberal in what you accept", has long guided the design
>     and implementation of Internet protocols.  However, it has been
>     interpreted in a variety of ways.  While some interpretations help
>     ensure the health of the Internet, others can negatively affect
>     interoperability over time.  When a protocol is actively maintained,
>     protocol designers and implementers can avoid these pitfalls.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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