Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-06-11
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Wed, 13 May 2020 18:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (dmarc) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-06-11
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> >In doing that, yes, I think I'm representing the IETF. It's never in > >the sense that "I'm speaking for the IETF, and the IETF says..." That > >*would* be what formal liaison statements are for, and we have never > >done a formal liaison statement to or from M3AAWG. > > If I understood the liaison programme correctly, there is some > overhead on the IAB side as it has to assign one of its members to > keep an eye on what is going on. Is it useful to have a liaison > relationship when there aren't any concerns or a need for formal > representation? That is the question which, in my opinion, is useful > for the IAB to think about. There's *some* overhead with pretty much anything that a committee has to do, but the overhead of managing a liaison relationship that's working well is quite low. Yes, there's someone assigned to keep track of me as M3AAWG liaison manager. I hear from that IAB member usually only when the assignee changes, because there isn't much more to do: I try to send the IAB a routine report once a year, giving a summary of what's been happening. If something needs to be raised, I send the IAB a report about that when it comes up, and I think that happened once or twice -- not because of a liaison problem, but because there was a topic that I thought they should be aware of. And a couple of times since 2009 the assignee has talked with me about whether the liaison relationship is still useful, and we decided, after a chat, that it was. It's my goal as liaison manager to make sure that the overhead is as low as I can make it, and that both organizations see some benefit from the relationship. > As an off-topic comment, I would say that part of being open is also > about being open to objections. When that does not work well, people > take their work elsewhere. Indeed, and I certainly agree with both of those statements. Barry
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Barry Leiba
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Barry Leiba
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Barry Leiba
- [arch-d] Liaison reports (was: Domain-based Messa… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Domain-based Message Authentication,… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports Wes Hardaker
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports (was: Domain-based M… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports (was: Domain-based M… S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports (was: Domain-based M… Bob Hinden
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports (was: Domain-based M… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports Wes Hardaker
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports Wes Hardaker
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports S Moonesamy
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports (was: Domain-based M… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [arch-d] Liaison reports Mirja Kuehlewind