Re: [arch-d] New Version Notification for draft-iab-for-the-users-01.txt

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Fri, 24 January 2020 10:30 UTC

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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] New Version Notification for draft-iab-for-the-users-01.txt
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That’s better - thanks. 

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> On 24 Jan 2020, at 8:54 pm, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
>>> On 24 Jan 2020, at 06:36, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is the following text in Section 4.1: "Government representatives sometimes participate in the IETF community."  When are those representatives representative of end-users?
>> 
>> I think they're representative of governments. 
> 
> 
> None of our processes assume that this is the case, but rather that they are individuals just like anybody else.  Moreover, if governments believe that sending someone to the IETF means that they are representing government positions, those people will be hampered in participating in constructive dialogs.
> 
> I would change the terminology a bit to say something like “government experts”, or otherwise add something of an explanatory note to address the above.
> 
> Eliot