Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the-users-02> (The Internet is for End Users)
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-for-the-users-02> (The Internet is for End Users)
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Il 06/02/2020 02:43 Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> ha scritto:
In this document, "end users," means non-technical users whose activities IETF standards are designed to support, sometimes indirectly.s/non-technical users/non-technical human users/
Government representatives sometimes participate in the IETF community. While this is welcome, it should not be taken as automatically representative of end users elsewhere, or even all end users in the relevant jurisdiction. Furthermore, what is desirable in one jurisdiction (or at least to its administrators) might be detrimental in others (see Section 4.4).
While some civil society organisations specialise in technology and Internet policy, they typically do not have the capacity to participate broadly, nor are they necessarily representative of the larger Internet community. Nevertheless, their understanding of end user needs is often profound, and they are in many ways the most representative advocates for end user concerns; they should be considered a primary channel for engaging the broader Internet community.
A promising approach to help fill these gaps is to identify and engage with specifically affected communities; for example, one or more industry associations, user groups, or a set of individuals, though we can't of course formally ensure that they are appropriately representative.
For example, one of the most successful Internet applications is the Web. One of its key implementation roles is that of the Web browser - called the User Agent in [RFC7230] and other specifications. Because there are multiple interoperable implementations, users can switch with relatively low costs, and as a result there is a natural tendency to more carefully consider the user's needs as an agent. This leads to Web browsers' interests being better aligned with those of their users, creating an ecosystem that is more user-focused (even if there are serious challenges in it regarding the balance of power between implementations and the barrier to entry for new implementations).
The IAB and IETF have already established a body of guidance for situations where this sort of conflict is common, including (but not limited to) [RFC7754] on filtering, [RFC7258] and [RFC7624] on pervasive surveillance, [RFC7288] on host firewalls, and [RFC6973] regarding privacy considerations.
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