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Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc6635bis-03> (RFC Editor Model (Version 2))

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Sat, 28 September 2019 00:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc6635bis-03> (RFC Editor Model (Version 2))
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Hi,

I am the document editor for this version of the document.

> On Sep 10, 2019, at 11:22 PM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Internet Architecture Board,
> At 01:59 PM 04-09-2019, IAB Executive Administrative Manager wrote:
>> This is an announcement of an IETF-wide Call for Comment on
>> draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc6635bis-03.
>> 
>> The document is being considered for publication as an Informational RFC
>> within the IAB stream, and is available for inspection at:
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc6635bis/>
>> 
>> The Call for Comment will last until 2019-10-02. Please send comments to
>> architecture-discuss@ietf.org and iab@iab.org.
> 
> The is a misspelled word in last sentence at the bottom of Page 3 of the draft.

I will fix in the next version.

> 
> There has been a significant discussion of the RFC Editor Model since July.  Section 2.1.5 of draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc6635bis-03 was not adhered to since several years.  The qualification described in Section 2.1.6 does not reflect what would be sought in a person to fulfill the role of RFC Series Editor.  The description of the oversight role of the RFC Series Oversight Committee, described in Section 3.1, is not aligned with what could be envisioned for the RFC Series.
> 
> Given the above, it is not judicious to publish draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc6635bis-03 as a RFC without an adequate review of the draft.
> 

The direction on this draft was to only change parts of the document that related to the change from the IAOC to LLC.

The larger issues with the RFC Editor need to be resolved, but I don’t think the LLC related changes should be delayed until that is complete.   It’s going to take a while in my view.

Thanks,
Bob





> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy
> 
> 
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