Re: [arch-d] centralization
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 12 March 2021 12:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] centralization
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Hiya, On 12/03/2021 11:44, Hutchison, David wrote: > > Of course, I agree resilience is an important topic to pursue -- and > like Toerless I was disappointed to see the previous "lukewarm" > response ... Yeah, me too. It was funny that we had a good discussion on this list around the end of 2019 but then once we started a new list [1] it totally died. My conclusion was that indicated that people were interested in chatting but not in doing actual work on this topic. S. [1] https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/chirp
- [arch-d] centralization Yaakov Stein
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Lars-Johan Liman
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Toerless Eckert
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Hutchison, David
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Stephen Farrell
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Andrew Campling
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Eliot Lear
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Watson Ladd
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Jari Arkko
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Dominique Lazanski
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Guntur Wiseno Putra
- Re: [arch-d] centralization Guntur Wiseno Putra