Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Sun, 25 August 2019 18:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [arch-d] FYI: closure of the IAB Stack Evolution program
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On 25/8/19 20:07, Joe Touch wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2019, at 9:48 AM, John Leslie <john@jlc.net
>> <mailto:john@jlc.net>> wrote:
>>
>>   Yes, QUIC employs UDP because they despaired of deploying a new
>> transport protocol.
>>
>>   However, architecture-discuss@iab.org
>> <mailto:architecture-discuss@iab.org> _really_shouldn't_ abandon hope
>> of deploying a new transport protocol: it's _hard_; it may not happen in
>> my lifetime; but the Internet, or its replacement, _will_ need a new
>> transport procotol some day...
> 
> IMO, it has a chance of happening when the IETF “grows up”.
> 
> Trust, but VERIFY.
> 
> The IETF started with the assumption that everyone wanted to play
> together and play nice. That ship sailed decades ago.
> 
> The missing step is to create a validation suite and corresponding
> official endorsement of compliance.

You mean something along the lines of "If you want to claim you provide
Internet connectivity, then you *must* support all this"?


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